Are We Going to Have a Planning System That Delivers the Promise of Electricity?

"I'm not at all convinced that we have a planning system that is going to be able to deliver the promise benefits of electrification," he says. "We're not yet at a place where either the government can just say, reorient the power market in this way." He adds: "That's not even permitting reform. It's like a total reform of how the markets are structured and how we incentivize development"