"The most frightening thing is for people to have their lives keep going on and not feel the pain that is being caused in this other place," she says. Were you ever worried that the war would come to you? "In the most direct sense, no. If it was going to affect us, the war...would really only be kind of tangentially ... on the sidelines."
Kirill, 24, works at a nonprofit for homeless people in the Moscow region. He does not support the policies of President Vladimir V. Putin and is vehemently against the invasion of Ukraine.
After suffering setbacks in the war, Mr. Putin announced a military draft a week ago. Kirill was among those called up. As he hides out to avoid being served his papers, Kirill spoke to Sabrina Tavernise about how his life has changed.
Guest: Kirill, a 24-year-old from Moscow who is attempting to avoid the draft and who asked that only his first name be used to avoid reprisals.
Background reading:
- In a rare admission of official mistakes, the Kremlin has acknowledged that the military draft has been rife with problems.
- Resistance to the draft has grown as villagers, activists and even some elected officials ask why the conscription drive appears to be hitting minority groups and rural areas harder than the big cities.
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