I just want to get your thoughts on the state of DeFi right now. Do you see it as like, is this the moment that it's crossing over? You've also been working in the space for three and a half years or so. I used to work at Coinbase as a software engineer. Like 75 to 80% of the work on engineering side goes into dealing with the traditional financial industry. The price of ETH has gone up so much that if you're outside of crypto, it's brutal.

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