The Unknown Unknowns and the Star Trek View

"I'm very skeptical when people you know say we're absolutely certain that all of these things are going to play out due to climate change well I mean the climate is one of those complex systems in the planet and that doesn't so I mean like by that same token fucking around with it is something that we should have done with way more caution," he says. "There's nowhere on earth that is not a controlled environment or could if it isn't actively controlled by human beings it could be if we wanted to right we just haven't gotten to it yet because there's so much other stuff to do right" He adds: "The possibilities are more open than the current scope of the debate