Structuring The Dark Knight Returns

Frank Miller is regarded as one of the most influential and awarded creators. He began his career in comics in the late 1970s, first gaining notoriety as the artist, and later writer, of Daredevil for Marvel Comics. Next, came the science-fiction samurai drama Ronin, followed by the groundbreaking Batman: The Dark Knight Returns and Batman: Year One with artist David Mazzuchelli. Following these seminal works, Miller fulfilled a lifelong dream by doing an all-out crime series, Sin City, which spawned two blockbuster films that he co-directed with Robert Rodriguez. Miller’s multi-award-winning graphic novel 300 was also adapted into a highly successful film by Zack Snyder. His upcoming memoir, Push the Wall: My Life, Writing, Drawing, and the Art of Storytelling, is now available for pre-order.

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Timestamps:

• [00:00:00] Start.
• [00:02:14] Aristotle’s definition of happiness: Devotion to excellence.
• [00:03:02] Tools of the trade: Blackwing pencils, India ink, liquid frisket.
• [00:04:45] Sin City‘s physical creation at “twice up” size.
• [00:08:06] The toothbrush spatter technique.
• [00:09:24] Channeling impatience, anger, and violence into dramatic creative work.
• [00:10:33] What Jack Kirby knew about making comics competitive with cinema’s spectacle.
• [00:11:56] Will Eisner and The Spirit‘s influence on the US market where writer-artist duality is rare.
• [00:13:33] How Jack Kirby blasted apart the panel grid (and a young Frank’s mind).
• [00:15:49] Push the wall and defy the code.
• [00:19:54] The ruthless mentorship of Neal Adams.
• [00:24:57] The genesis of the Elektra amd Daredevil “soap opera.”
• [00:27:56] Story structure: Start late, end early.
• [00:29:10] Trusting the muse over rigid methodology.
• [00:31:15] European invasion: Moebius and Forbidden Planet.
• [00:32:52] Japanese influence: Lone Wolf and Cub‘s impact.
• [00:34:30] Cultural differences in depicting violence and motion.
• [00:36:38] Ronin: Shameless imitation and rebirth.
• [00:37:28] How does Frank know if something is working (or not working)?
• [00:39:27] The critical reception of Ronin as a “broken nose.”
• [00:42:37] The ruthless structure of The Dark Knight Returns.
• [00:43:40] Mutual elevation with “smartest fan” Alan Moore.
• [00:48:26] Robert Rodriguez: Angel of goodwill and generosity.
• [00:49:28] Sin City film: Co-directing and the Director’s Guild sacrifice.
• [00:50:31] Working as a “two-headed beast” with Rodriguez.
• [00:55:27] Favorite films.
• [00:58:19] Books and ancient history inspiring 300.
• [00:59:00] Hollywood lessons: The importance of working with the right people.
• [01:01:13] The partnership and guidance of Silenn Thomas.
• [01:02:01] The clarity and creative rejuvenation of getting sober from alcohol.
• [01:04:48] Advice for aspiring comic artists: Story, story, story.
• [01:06:20] Learning to draw: Bridgman and Loomis books.
• [01:08:07] Perspective as a mathematical trick and lie.
• [01:11:00] Dick Giordano’s advice: Lay in blacks first.
• [01:13:52] Sin City workflow innovation: Batch processing stages.
• [01:15:48] Dark Horse Comics and creative freedom.
• [01:17:29] Economy of line work and elegant minimalism.
• [01:20:46] On collaborating with Bill Sienkiewicz on Elektra.
• [01:25:20] Billboard wisdom: “Ask every question,” and “Why?”
• [01:27:08] Challenging pathological conformity.
• [01:27:39] Parting thoughts and where to find Frank’s work.

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