Constantine: I'm familiar with that neck of the world, but not based there now. So Constantine kindly agreed to come on because I think we talked a while back about potentially having a discussion about areas that we might agree or disagree on. And broadly speaking, I would say, I don't know how familiar you are with our podcast, but we tend to focus on online gurus or secular gurus. This is people that fall into the Jordan Peterson, Nassim, we've also done a Brim candy and who's that guy that we the science writer, Matt, that we like, you're here. Yeah. Not like I was going to say, I was going