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Emma Marris, "Wild Souls: Freedom and Flourishing in the Non-Human World" (Bloomsbury, 2021)

New Books in Science, Technology, and Society

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Animals and Humans

Sally Kohn: I want to unpack a little bit, r at least discuss notion you've been talking about, this dicodomy between non human and human. Because as animals, everything we do is natural. That using natural is a substitute for is the problem here, not the solution. She says there are still lots of other values out there in the natural world that we want to try to preserve beyond this e naturalness or this lack of human influence.Kohn: The way to solve our environmental problems is not to withdraw. It's to have better relationships with the non human world. We can't just put everything back like the condominiums from old school except

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