The Politics of Public Service

Jimmy carter has been the news recently as someone who's deeply concerned about the progress of our democracy. The fact that you've become such an avid interviewer strikes me as fascinating. So t what prompted you to head in this direction? Because it's been something you've clearly invested a tonge of time and energy into like many things in life, it's spi ceran diputy. I happened to fall into it because vernon jordan asked me to be the head of the economic club of washington get speakers. But i guess it stems back to my intellectual curiosity. Like you, anybody that's interested in doing these kind of podcasts must be curious about other things