The more abstract the character, the easier it is for us to slip inside them. I'm really interested in what that middle is because if we're going to have group tools for thinking, multiplayer tools for thought, then we need to have an arena where we're thinking together and playing together. We don't really have drishti's in these new cyber spaces or meta versus or whatever, or we're not paying enough attention to that somehow. But we need to ponder some of these things and then drop them down into the arcane world of concrete code, right?I will meditate on that analogy. And one of the things we need in this space is I'm going to borrow here