I think for me personally I noticed that all the time I think it's very few incentives for interoperability at the more kind of like consumer level there. How do we create software that is composable so that you can make new things with it? Molly, can you sort of talk about how this modular design or interoperability comes into your, into your world?" And I'll put something else on the table, which might lead to that which is, and Molly, we're writing about the sum, the need for modularity"