The Importance of Consequences

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"We're not assuming consequentialism in this debate right that's the that's the thing we're fighting about is whether we should be consequentialist about blame and punishment you can't just assume consequentialism. Well you know I'm but I'm saying that every time if I if I ask you to spell out the reasons why something is morally justified," he says. "I don't think we've actually gotten to the the core of what I think is the asymmetry here which is you have you've granted the evil genius case as being one in which blame is really blame isn't appropriate"

Bestselling author and friend of the podcast Sam Harris joins Tamler and Dave for a marathon podcast. (Seriously, pack two pairs of astronaut diapers for this one). We talk about the costs and benefits of religion, dropping acid in India, and the illusory nature of (a certain kind of) free will. Then we go at it on blame, moral responsibility, hatred, guilt, retribution, and vengeance. Sam thinks these are antiquated responses based on a belief in spooky metaphysics, Tamler thinks they are important components of human morality, and Dave just wants everyone to get along and be reasonable (like that nice Kant fellow).

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0:00-47:00 Intro and costs and benefits of religion

47:00-77:30 Drugs, the self, free will

77:30-- Blame, guilt, vengeance, moral responsibility, desert.

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