If someone's in a place of like realizing maybe they want to shift out of really loving hard work, what's the first thing that you tell them to do? I'd ask them, what do you love about hard work specifically? And if you are saying to yourself, I want ease, I wants ease, and you're ignoring the part of yourself that's like, wait, no. You won't because you're like, but this is very important to me. Why are we trying to get rid of the thing that I love? That's weird. It's like they can't separate it, right? It's like it all kind of comes together. Yes.

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