If we become massively more efficient in today's culture that has GDP as a cultural goal and financial profits as an objective, the gains from new efficiency will just be funneled back into that model. In terms of the dollars that get sucked out for our energy bill, if you like, that won't go up if we're more efficient. So it shouldn't affect the sort of type of world that we're used to. But we're, and we're talking about oil and gas here. Now, if you start talking about other energy sources as well, then, because that's an, that's now becoming such a bigger part of the mix in some, some countriesthat we have to

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