TZ: I think what's so funny is that like the way that you see, I'm sure you've read many articles as I have about people who are radicalized on the Internet. And it actually kind of reminds me of what people did with me just going in the other direction, right? It's that building of community of relationships. As they started to move in a direction or continue in a direction that I was coming to realize was, was something that I believed was wrong.