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Isabella Tecriolyd Swelling, Mi?
i met isabella more on the road, in terms of not os speaking on stage, but more that she was attending a lot of events. I didn't realize until i looked back at some messages, was two thousand and 15, ashe thompson introduced us. And then we didn't speak again for like five or six years. Raes, i wasn't sliding into the ems, by the way. It was work related. A kevin, so you've seen it out. She's kind of developed over ta period of time, right? Because when we bth both originally knew isabella, she wasn't speaking on the stage, and now she done the podcast