Prefer satisfaction over 'merit' language

Two-age Sojourner is hosted by is Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand.

Mike is joined by Dr Charles Lee Irons. Lee is a Klinean expert. Added to the books and articles that he has authored, he offers very helpful content (concerning a wide range of topics) on his website: www.upper-register.com . Please do check it out! 

Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace. You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music."

For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com