Namly, escape ism sometimes gets a bad rap, doesn't it? You you were very interesting about the first lockdown. People are inhabiting these physical realities and investing them with meaning then they're often moving to that new suburb of reality because it's much better than where they're living. So there's a really healthy impulse towards, when i'm in distress, to take myself into some imaginary space where i can feel a little bit better. I come back to my own life refreshed. It's when you can't come back that it becomes a problem.

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