Andi: Was there a path? There wasn't. I just knew that i really wanted to understand how humans worked. The best way i could do that was to study the great the researchers, the the folks that were designing the theories about how we think it might be working. And so i always thought that if i could understand what they were trying to understand, but i could push it through a unique lens of this outdoor adventure, high stakes, figured out yourself approach to life.

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