Barry: I've experienced some pretty major burnot over the last few years at different moments. And what's, what's been interesting for me to knowt also is that my, your, nobody performs at the peak of their game on a sustained basis. Doesn't happen in athletics. It doesn't happen in music. It don't happen in business. You're talking about many decades. How do you do that over that amount of time sustainably? Barry: i look at it from a long game because if you choose your best work, and you want to do that for the, for the long hall, right?

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