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What's Your Relationship to Art?
I think in my youth, I was really driven by a lot of the youthful motivators. It was like, all right, I'm going to try to be an artist. You know, not very few people support you in that,. Very few people think it's a good idea. So he didn't come from a background where he was going to have money or could be supported. He spent years running everything through the filter of "does this produce a job"