Andrutate: "It sounds fetishistic and weird in sexist when he's saying it is because he is saying it without reference to the kids that the union will produce" If you say a woman belongs to the man because it is the man's job to protect and provide for her, that's a different thing from saying she's essentially your slave. We're an entire civilization that has decided that children no longer matter, which of course is why we're a civilization that does not have children or civilization that is not producing a next generation. That's what it will end with.