i'm continually blown away by the amount of vc's who aren't actually crypto users like dfi users right and this was even worse previously but it's still kind of bad now. i think there's a lesson for our listeners here and for retail it's here spend more time using products that will already put you ahead of a lot of the vc's deploying capital in the game. We only make as Richard said a concentrate number four to six investments a year call it  and we're only investing in products that we understand deeply from a user perspective which is how i got involved with coinbase back in 2012.

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