Alex lieberman is co founder and ceo of morning brew. Every day he gives the listener a back stage pass into building morning brew to help you think better in order to build better. Today's episode is all about the difference between practice makes perfect and perfect practice makes perfect. Wea started the day at 11 a m with archery. And for hatchet throwing, they also connected back to mindfulness. The interesting thing about where we are is wer at kind of like this, you know, mindfulness a spa. every activity you do here, they end up connecting back to mindful.