I'm very much in favor that I did have a podcast with Paul Bluh. The psychologist who is anti-empathy, he thinks that empathy gets in the way of our rationality. And so I'm going to optimistically agree with you that our ability to experience things as other people in a more visceral way might help the world come together a little bit. We're being optimistic today. And rational is not the default state of a human. Tribal is. and empathy dissolves tribalism where these expands your sense of who the in-group is.

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