The first step is to challenge the idea that we are this body and mind. Sarvocrianantho, i am this man or woman. You are not limited to that. What is atman? If it's not bodymend and what is it? It's awareness. All changes are in body and mind - birth, childhood, middle age, old age, death,. body disease, body, happy ness, desire, lack of fulfilment, mind, misery,mind frustration. Mind, not me. I am the knower of all of that. But i am apart from it. Consciousness does not have old age. Consciousness is not fat or thin. consciousness

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