The Disagreement About Populism

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Sally Kohn: How worried are you about populism not as an economic proposition but as a phenomenon of politicians amining key institutional norms and rules to sustain free and fair elections? She asks whether we need to be less concerned about some of the developments now in our political system. Kohn: We have a kind of difference about populism and i want to locate what that difference is. The south had this very nepotistic closed off elite and periodically there would be rebellions backed by alienated voters when they could vote, she says.

Michael Lind is a writer and professor of the practice at the Lyndon B. Johnson School of Public Affairs at the University of Texas at Austin. He is the co-founder of the think tank New America and the author of The New Class War: Saving Democracy From the Managerial Elite and, most recently, Hell to Pay: How the Suppression of Wages is Destroying America.

In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Michael Lind discuss whether one’s stances towards free trade, taxation, and workers’ rights are still a reliable predictor of voters’ broader political identity; why Lind, though he supports many economically progressive policies, is often classed as a conservative; and whether efforts to rebuild labor power and reinvigorate national industrial policy will succeed in improving the economy for ordinary people.

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