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of? Yeah, so I'd say we average between 25 ish clients jumps up to maybe like 30 after a big promotion and goes down. That's when everyone starts going. We need to do another promotion or we need to make, you know, check the hour lead gen and we just started with an email marketing company. We're doing some like LinkedIn lead gen. We have other, you know, influencers that we're working with as well. So we've always got stuff in the pipeline. But they're really interesting thing. So Nick has a lot more experience in the agency like world than me. So he's done. Yeah, eight years of client SEO and link building, but for me is a very different world to selling fish and chips behind a hot steamy counter. But it's, it's interesting how we've had to scale. We've had to scale to meet demand. And then as we've built out the team to handle the demand. It's like right now, do we push to be able to handle like double the demand, but we haven't got that yet. Or do we wait to see if the demand doubles and then quickly scale again. So it's the chicken in the egg and learning as

we go.