Code Dependent Relationships - I'm Taking Over

"For me personally, lots of pain," Altman said. "I want this relationship, business and friendship to have the closeness that I that we have become used to." He says he's trying to own his piece without treading into 'his territory', which is a learning for him about being codependent. The podcast obviously with Ben's absence will be a huge difference, you know, that I'm taking over.