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The Ukraine War Ep. 1: The Eve of the War

This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler

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Putin's Bitterness Toward the West

The West didn't really want Russia to be a problem. They felt they had many others, and therefore a leader who looked as if he was going to bring some order back to the country. He very much presented himself,. as you say, as a partner in the global war against terror. But I don't think it was entirely cynical. It's his view is that at the beginning he thought, look, I will happily let you do whatever you want as long as you let me do what I want against my enemies. And for example, when the West started raising the appalling human rights record in Chechnya, Putin seems genuinely to have been outraged because he felt that more or less

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