Testing and the detours in the interim

In an intimate, exclusive sit-down, the rapper and actor reflects on how the chaotic eight years since his previous album led to his new release, “Don’t Be Dumb.” Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.