Costs, attrition logic, and why Putin persists

In recent months, the Trump administration has hit 21 boats suspected of smuggling on behalf of drug cartels, as part of their self-declared war on narcoterrorism. It's all part of a wider campaign aimed at Venezuela and its leader Nicolas Maduro. Former President of Colombia Ivan Duque joins the show to discuss. 

Also on today's show NYT journalist Farnaz Fassihi; New Yorker contributing writer Joshua Yaffa 

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