The Importance of the Symbolic

Ryan: What those shows are doing is saying look these people occupy a certain symbolic position and thus they act a certain way. I think that's really great that you know Tracy McNulty has this book called wrestling with an angel with the angel she speaks on behalf of the symbolic bond right? He says even if at times it can be oppressive that there's no oppression necessarily written into the symbolic structure itself. Ryan: It's almost like I'm tempted to say that's almost the role of like reification like in a in a mark sense, taking the imaginary and making it seem like it's symbolic yeah.