Eges: This is the second half of our interview with daniel schmachten berger, who is the co founder of nurohaker collective. In this half, we talk about the process of neurogenesis, which parts of ancient wisdom are useful in modern society and therapeutic use of psychodelics. For all the lynx mentions and books from this episode, go to thinkers dot org slash forty three. And if you're interested in trying qallia, the smart drug stack that daniels company has developed, go to future thinkers dot org.