I still remember when you and I did the episode on The Good Life with Eric Landry. He told the story about as a pastor, one of his members was eating, he saw the family eating fast food right before they came in to a Bible study. And so their members are exhausted. People spending every night at some type of church function. They don't even know their neighbors because they're only meeting with church people. Sunday is secondary and families are separated. So there is a real problem that is addressing another one which you were describing just made me think about how lonely it would feel to be like, I get my ministry based on who I am and my life and stage and it

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