"It is wild how early days we still are in podcasting," he says. "The winners have not been decided. The game hasn't even started." He wants creators to truly have the capacity to have a thousand true fan thing and live a very comfortable life without having t-shirts, courses, like all this extra stuff. 'I really want them to be able to just be themselves to a thousand people and have that, you know, be like a six figure income'

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