"I think love is the greatest liberating to ever and my gol is to leverage it more," he says. "As a man who've been through all these extremes of what it means to be masculine,  to really just speak to the thing that's the most fulfilling ... i don't feel fulfilled when i have to protect." He wants his sons to balance out hard worked life with the joy of lived life. 'What i do want to do is expand the narrative to include all of who we are'

Get the Snipd
podcast app

Unlock the knowledge in podcasts with the podcast player of the future.
App store bannerPlay store banner

AI-powered
podcast player

Listen to all your favourite podcasts with AI-powered features

Discover
highlights

Listen to the best highlights from the podcasts you love and dive into the full episode

Save any
moment

Hear something you like? Tap your headphones to save it with AI-generated key takeaways

Share
& Export

Send highlights to Twitter, WhatsApp or export them to Notion, Readwise & more

AI-powered
podcast player

Listen to all your favourite podcasts with AI-powered features

Discover
highlights

Listen to the best highlights from the podcasts you love and dive into the full episode