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The Ultimate Game for Unbreakable Confidence(with Brian Johnson)

The Mark Divine Show

CHAPTER

From Optimize to Philosophy: A Journey of Transformation

The host and guest dive into their previous interactions, discussing the guest's transition from working on Optimize to becoming a philosopher CEO. They share personal struggles with anxiety and depression, highlighting the impact of the guest's book on the host's life. The chapter ends with a mention of high ideals and living with integrity.

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