I think the roll of social media platforms is huge, and the signs were there with you two quite early on as well. There's an outsized focus on the role of the u tu algorithm, which does play a really important role in radicaliing people. But even before that, there has been kind of a strain of, i guess you could call it like reactionary celebrity culture on youtube. That's the piece of it that actually i'm more interested in, and that i focus on more in my research.

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