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Anchoring Rituals, Part 1 with Dr. Chelle Stearns and Matthias Roberts

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Water, I Love the Way You Put It, Matthias

Matthias: How do we work with the reality that something can bring both life and death in some way simultaneously? And i think a lot of people are in of when faith once brought life, and now is bringing what feels like death. So even as you both think about your own experience of drama within that ambiguous frame, i'd love to know where your minds go. Matthias: I think part of this material has really undone me a little bit, because it's made me go back to place in my own life where i realize i really don't have resolution.

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