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Rick Rubin

Design Matters with Debbie Millman

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Are You Fearless Outside of Art?

Rick Rubin: When I was first involved in hip hop, the idea that it would become what it became was not a possibility. He says nobody who was making hip hop music thought this is going to be the biggest thing in the world. The things that turn me on are the things that are radical," he says. "I like edgy things. I like extreme things"

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