What if the point isn’t platform, but friendship with God? Jennie sits down with Joe L. Barnes -worship leader, Grammy-winning songwriter (“Promises”), and tender shepherd-at-heart - to talk about obeying God’s voice, writing songs from real pain, and letting Jesus define success.

Joe shares how intimacy with God has become the anchor of his calling. You’ll also hear the beautiful Psalm 23 picture behind his project Good Shepherd (and a wild lesson about sheep, oil, and healing).

You’ll hear:
Obedience over optics: the one decision to follow God’s voice that opened every door
Good Shepherd theology: why “You anoint my head with oil” means protection, healing, and rest for anxious hearts
Collaboration & communion: real talk before great songs - and why we’re made for both
Grief & marriage: holding loss and love at the same time, and the legacy Joe wants more than platform

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