In his experience, at least going through this thing that's so difficult ends up being for a lot of people and certainly for me, like an opportunity for enormous personal growth. And I think there's something in that experience that's very valuable. If you want a lesson in being vulnerable, divorce is a very good lesson in beingulnerable because you can't get around it. Everybody knows that this is happening to you. You can't pretend you're not too upset about it, but no one's going to believe you... So it really forces you to confront that in ways that are interesting.

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