The Origins of MKUltra and Ritual Abuse

I've been on a similar quest, right, to try to figure out what exactly is real in this regard. In terms of different levels of veracity, I guess is one way to put it. So there's like the hard, you know, undeniable, documented type stuff and then first person accounts that people have. This would be like Cathy O'Brien, Kurt Barker, for its framework, its framework says he's worked with. Who else? There's a couple books of people that are real. You know, I was the subject of this kind of abuse or whatever. And by the way, so I did analysis of some of these people's,. you know, claims and