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136+. Interview with Prof. Christian Lebiere on ACT-R and Cognitive Architecture

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The Atomic Components of Thoughts

I wanted to hear about the risk response to it over that time and if you have any thoughts about it after all this time. It did get a lot of citation a lot of interest I think maybe even more than the book we decided to make. The idea of the lone wolf researcher sort of uh laying their own path is a little bit outdated so much of today's science is is collaborative and highly social, says Christian levier.

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So finally I'd just like to ask a bit about your book that I'm still reading which I'm enjoying the sorry the atomic components of thought it's been a well since it's been out I wanted to hear about the risk response to it over that time and if you have any thoughts about it after you know all this time having produced that in the 90s and now we're in 2022 do you have anything to say any reflections on your book and and the results of after having written it together with with Anderson?
Speaker 1
Well I mean it did get a lot of citation a lot of interest I think maybe even more than the book we decided to make and that's something number other cognitive architectures like SOAR have done as well uh to make the actual code available open source and that's it might seem like nowadays that's fairly obvious idea so many things like data sets code are available open source but at the time it was still the case that researchers tended to sort of you know keep their code and their models closely held and it would publish the results but they would assume that the sort of the the code was something that only them would want to to to use and we made the decision uh to to put the the cognitive architecture out there and to let people change it and experiment with it as they wanted you know and we were sort of concerned by the idea that well what if they change it and now we have all those versions of the cognitive architecture which are incompatible with each other so we're back to the you're playing 20 questions and not winning and that was in the case that people that embrace the idea of cognitive architectures really wanted that common theoretical basis so even when they were advocating ideas like changing the architecture let's say getting rid of the ghost act they wanted to achieve a consensus within the community that was using the cognitive architecture such that everybody or at least most people would agree with it and that would become the new standard so so that idea I think of of building a community not just publishing your research but then we put a lot of effort into hosting summer schools and workshops and and developing that community and I think science is ultimately a social endeavor the idea of the lone wolf researcher sort of uh laying their own path is a little bit outdated so much of today's science is is collaborative and highly social that that's a really important dimension so
Speaker 2
that's the end of my questions now uh with is there any other thing that you'd like to share with the audience
Speaker 1
no not really that's been a really enjoyable discussion yeah thank
Speaker 2
you so much for coming on the podcast i'm very grateful and that was a really interesting discussion all about cognitive architectures in actar so thank you christian levier and and that's it for today so i hope everybody enjoyed the interview and i'll see you next time on education book cast

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