E729: Datos - secretly one of the most important companies in the SEO ecosystem. Today’s guest is co-founder and CEO of Datos, Eli Goodman. While many marketers have never heard of Datos, the smartest ones quietly rely on its clickstream data to understand how the world searches, clicks, and behaves online.
This episode is a deep dive into how search is changing in actual behavior. Eli breaks down what the data shows about Google, AI search, ChatGPT, and what’s driving clicks in 2025.
We discuss: - What 20 million users reveal about search behavior - The truth about AI search vs. traditional Google search - Will AI kill SEO anytime soon - The rise of zero-click searches and what it means - How clickstream data works - and why it matters - How Datos tracks behavior across 200+ countries - Google’s AI overviews vs. ChatGPT and Perplexity - Why most AI search queries aren’t commercial - Classic search vs. AI search behavior patterns - The “additive” nature of AI search - What marketers get wrong about search trends - How Datos’ data predicted earnings for major companies - Pinterest’s early rise spotted in clickstream data - What most marketers miss about non-linear attribution - Whether AI search is more “journey” than “destination” - Why publishers should be worried - and what’s next - The war between LLMs and search engines - and its timeline - Why user behavior changes slower than people think - The future of data, privacy, and search segmentation
⭐️ Eli Goodman on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/eligoodman/
⭐️ Datos - clickstream data to power your products and insights - https://datos.live/
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00:00 Predicting the Future with Data 01:19 Real-World Examples of Accurate Predictions 01:47 Detecting Pinterest 02:51 Datos Is One of the Most Important SEO Players 04:01 Understanding Clickstream Data 05:10 The Role of Data in Marketing Decisions 11:03 The Evolution of Search and AI's Impact 19:27 Behavioral Differences in Search Patterns 26:57 The Ongoing Battle Between AI and Traditional Search 28:59 The Impact of ChatGPT on Google and Meta 29:46 The Power of Established Networks 30:38 Apple's AI and Market Dynamics 31:28 The Future of AI in Search 32:22 Behavioral Changes and Search Patterns 36:55 Predicting Trends with Clickstream Data 43:03 The Role of Clickstream Data in AI 50:16 Google's Zero Click Search and SEO Trends 54:52 Concluding Thoughts and Future Discussions
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