Some of the worst coaches in the history of sports were some of the greatest players, madgi johnsonand isaiah thomas a. I mean, even as michael jordan played into his role there, the truth is that some of the best coaches, guys like nick saben, were not great players. So when we take super star salespeople, we try to make them a new sales manager. And i think that is an instructive thing for again, how do you teach someone how to do that without touching the ball during the game? Obviously you can do it in practice. How many leaders could benefit from you not really understanding that that approach? Because it's just

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