This is our third and final episode on just a little experimental project. You're hearing us workshop in real time. Well, not totally workshop, but working through some things that were not quite totally worked through. We don't have a fully formed Jesus on this question of is Wellness dead? Was Wellness a pseudo event? But it's something that we've been thinking about for a long time in wrestling with. So we're going to present where we're at and you, Darliz Nerkenfall along. And I'd love to hear where you end up. Maybe what keeps percolating for you.

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