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The Industrial Labor Elations School
i was fortunate enough to get an offer from ibm and join my next two really important mensors, george milkovitch and lee dyer. And then basically was a professor there, pretty much a standard professor roll, publishing in journals, in sixtuli classes. In the late eighties, i began to switch more toward a companies and business. Again, i was fortunate enough that some large companies asked me to consult. I wasn't very good at it, but they were very generous,. That's why i began to learn how to do that and how to speak publicly. So that during the nineties, i was basically doing a lot of travelling around the world