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Leading Up and Out Part 1
The Leader's Journey Podcast
Turning the Heat Up and Turning the Heat Down
There is as much an art of this as there is. We don't want to leave anybody with the impression that you can do better at this without it being messy. If you're if you're messy, avoid it, you're going to have a hard time increasing your influence. The lucky thing is that we get to start the conversation next time with our friend Mike Bonham who wrote a book leading from the second chair.
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