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251: Matt Hagan—You Wear 40 Pounds of Gear Because, You Know, You're on Fire Quite a Bit

The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe

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How to Overcome the Fears of Being Uncomfortable in the High Ropes Courses

"I don't think you give a damn if somebody looks at you talking to yourself in the car and conclude, if i wouldn't be doing it right? I just don't care," he says. "It seems like those are the things that make you drive and work harder because you're so close." He also talks about working with sport psychologists who helped him overcome his fear of high-risk activities.

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